A Grim View of What Lies Ahead: Hawks 104 – Bucks 96

“Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity.”

– Eminem

There are reasons inside this one big reason why the Bucks had all kinds of problems with the Hawks Monday night, but we all know there is one reason that looms large:

Andrew Bogut in street clothes.

The trickledown effects of Bogut being out appeared so severe Monday night, that I’m not sure I see any way the Bucks could be able to overcome them four times in seven games.  Of course, that’s what Milwaukee would need to do if they want to beat the Hawks in a playoff series.  And with the Bucks 104-96 loss Monday night, combined with the Heat’s two point victory over Philadelphia, it’s looking awfully likely that the Bucks will now end up playing Atlanta in the series this city wants to avoid.

The games are less fun, the Hawks aren’t very villainy and the Bucks chances seem infinitely lower against Atlanta.

Aside from the obvious reasons (he’s Milwaukee’s best player and best defender), why is Bogut’s absence magnified so greatly against the Hawks?  First, it’s the switching.  Oh my, the switching.  This is one thing that sets Atlanta apart as a defensive team and speaks to their versatility.  Any time Milwaukee runs a pick and roll, Atlanta straight up switches it.  If Kurt Thomas comes and sets a screen for Brandon Jennings, Al Horford will guard Jennings and Joe Johnson wil guard Thomas.  And it doesn’t leave Atlanta in a bad spot.  Horford is skilled enough as a perimeter defender that he makes it difficult for Jennings to get by him for an easy hoop.

Coach Scott Skiles wasn’t thrilled with his guards’ efforts in attacking in these situations.

“They’re switching centers onto our guards.  A pro guard has got to be able to go by a center and do something.  That’s the reality of it.  We took way too many jumpshots.  It’s something we’ve got to be much better at.  Nothing against Al or Zaza (Pachulia), but if those guys are switching onto point guards or two guards, you’ve got to make them pay.”

But with Josh Smith lurking in the shadows behind the big guys on the outside, getting by the bigs and to the rim with success is easier said than done.

“When you’re switching a guy and you got Josh Smith on you, you think you can just take him to the rack but, he’s a guy who can move and he’s a great shot-blocker.  It’s kind of real tough, we’re standing a lot on offense, not a lot of ball movement.”

So ball movement may be the answer?

“Well, you can’t just pass and keep going through.  You gotta try and attack but, you know, you got somebody under there and guys just keep rotating.  I think their length is unbelievable.  They’re like an AAU team. “

If only the Bucks had a way to exploit any mismatches they did have on these switches.  After all, Mike Bibby was on the court for 34 minutes, isn’t there a better way to attack him on the pick and roll.  Ah, that’s where Bogut’s injury comes into play again.  Sure, Kurt Thomas, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, and Ersan Ilyasova are all much bigger than Bibby, but how often are any of them looking to back a guy down?  The last time these teams met, I counted three separate occasions in which LRMAM either got the ball on a swing or grabbed an offensive rebound with Bibby on him and failed to attack.  Without Bogut, there are very few easy shots for the Bucks.

No, without Bogut, the Bucks are taking lots of long shots and looking at some long games ahead of them.  The reality is, life without Bogut isn’t going to be pretty for the Bucks come playoff time.  And this is just the start.


At first glance, a few things stand out in the box score.  One is the Bucks shooting percentage, again less than 40%.  That’s not on the map that gets teams to a win.  Another is the turnovers.  Milwaukee had just four turnovers and 20 assists.  So what’s this talk about ball-movement?  Milwaukee must have been moving the ball and finding guys, right?  Not according to Coach Skiles.

“I think I can argue that a lot of our shots were turnovers.”

Well then.  I guess that would explain the poor shooting percentage and lack of turnovers in a concise and impactful way.  Milwaukee was 11-32 on threes, probably part of what Coach Skiles was referring to.

  • As is per usual, John Salmons again led the way for Milwaukee, scoring efficiently and often, finishing with 28 points (9-18 FG 3-6 3FG 7-9 FT).  Salmons was one of the few Bucks able to attack, but he does hold the ball a bit long on occasion.  On top of that, when Salmons is holding the ball, it often seems like other players are standing around waiting for him to make the first move.  This is exactly the type of thing both Jennings and Skiles were referring to as detrimental.
  • What does a bad night for Ersan Ilyasova look like?  Try 2-11 FG and four fouls with just four rebounds to his credit.  Ilyasova typically makes a living on the offensive glass putbacks, but he had just two offensive boards and was generally ineffective against the Hawks.  The Bucks really could have used a nice game from Ilyasova too, they got almost nothing out of Primoz Brezec and Dan Gadzuric (0-1 FG, 2 PF and one Brezec moment where he tripped over his own feet, in a combined eight minutes).


  • Points in the paint: Atlanta 52 – Milwaukee 20.
  • Rebounds: Atlanta 48 – Milwaukee 34.
  • Blocked shots: Atlanta 11 – Milwaukee 1.

Is it clear who owned the inside in this one?

Remember what I wrote about Josh Smith before the game?  You don’t?  That’s okay, it’s still on the interweb, so I’ll just bust it back out.

…don’t expect big block numbers from Smith.  Unless he’s getting Jerry Stackhouse or flying across the paint.  The Bucks move the ball well, so if he’s flying around they can take advantage.

That was me saying Josh Smith wouldn’t block a lot of shots.  He had six.  To my credit, I assumed the Bucks would be moving the ball well, instead of getting their shots tossed all over the arena.  Smith fed off the Bucks lack of “second level” ball movement.  I’m referring to the movement that comes after the first defender is beat.  Milwaukee lacked that Monday night.

  • And by the way, is everyone else more concerned with Joe Johnson than Paul Pierce at this point?  Pierce is very good, but Johnson is just bonkers.  Post-ups, jumpers, threes, drives to the basket, you name it, this guy was doing it against the Bucks again.  12-19 FG 4-6 3FG 3-4 FT all added up to 31 points and an even more prominent place inside the Bucks scouting reports going forward.

Final Thoughts

There’s very little that I enjoyed about this game.  Among the things I least enjoyed was knowing that this loss makes it all the more likely Milwaukee will now be playing the Hawks in round one.  The Hawks team that looks to own the Bogut-less Bucks.  Atlanta can handle “small ball” better than any team in the league and are more than capable of matching up when a team goes big.  They can adjust to any style and frequently dictate the game.  Or the exact things the Bucks were looking to do without their center.  Milwaukee seemed to take this loss as a learning experience though.  They certainly won’t roll over against anyone.  But that doesn’t mean Atlanta won’t roll the Bucks over themselves.

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  2. To watch the Bucks play now they seem lost. They’re season was a success because Bogut & Salmons were the 1 & 2 options. Now that A.Bogut is gone. Let’s see the adjustment’s made. I read that Jennings seemed hesistant. Does anybody know why a player would be reluctant or confident in their own abilities? Hmmmm
    Salmons & Luke Ridnour have the green light to shoot any shot & play they’re style w/o being subbed. Jennings on the other hand walks a fine line between being a rookie or to flashy for the coach. He’s a streak shooter so when he hits 2 in a row. He can shoot you in & out. He isn’t selfish & is always looking to pass. Which at times to a fault. Ilyasova doesn’t seem confident either. A few times when Bibby was on Delfino he should have been looking to attack.

    If we can date back to the beginning of the season before Redd’s return. Jennings was playing with a confidence that let you know he was ready to lead this team. I’ll repeat the fact Jennings is like Ginobli. High risk. High reward. Deal with or you won’t see the full potential of the rook. It’s like Johnny Flynn. He’s had a miserable year & been ineffective in Rambis system. Skiles has done a very good job but will need to do a even better one now. It is possible to upset a team in the playoffs. You have to believe & have confidence in your team.

    The Bucks have nothing to lose. Lets leave it on the line. Also all the #’s and stats. This team isn’t that talented to not want Brandon Jennings shooting. Missing or not. Also the playing of both Jennings & Ridnour down the stretch. I thought we should have went with Stack. Could have even took out Delfino. We also need to show some toughness. Too many balls were in our hands & taken away. Too much standing around. We can’t have only one tough guy in Kurt. Skiles would wrestle away more rebounds than Delfino,Salmons,Jennings,Ridnour put together.

    Plain & simple in order to beat the Hawks. Joe Johnson can’t continue to have his way with us. Skiles can’t blame the guards as he always does. When we win it’s him,Bogut & Salmons. When we lose it was the play of Brandon. He is a bit too hard on the rook. You can see that in Brandon’s body languge. The last two games we were killed by the 2 guard. Namely Pierce & Johnson. A few stops & we’d be able to secure a lead & maybe win. That’s our achilles heel. The Hawks have one as well. Bibby can’t stop nobody like Derek Fisher. Exploit that matchup. Also it’s to late in the season for Ridnour & Jennings not to being playing better together. That comes from the coach. Ridnour is Skiles guy though he has no choice to start Jennings & give him a chance. He is the future & I’m sure that’s tough to swallow for both guys.

    • Jennings confidence waivering is a combination of things, less Skiles fault than his own tho. Floyd Mayweather said in an interview about fighting Pacquiao, I can study tape and show you how to beat Pacquiao, there is not blueprint on how to beat me. Similarly, the biggest reason I feel like Jennings’ confidence is waivering is opposing teams now study the tape and show their guys how to stop and beat Jennings. In the beginning of the season, their was no blueprint on how to stop him. Right now, I’m not sure Jennings could get much done consistently with the green light if Skiles gave it to him every night. Like Pacquiao needed to adjust and learn a lot to become the superstar he is now, Jennings will have to adjust and learn as well to become the All-Star PG Milwaukee is depending on him to be.

    • It’s comforting to know we can count on you to always turn everything back to Skiles the Monster shackling poor little Brandon with his strict coaching style. Regardless of the facts of course. Jenings played 40 minutes and took 23 shots, by far the most on the team. 2-11 on threes. Ridnour played 20 minutes and took 10 shots. How does he have more of a green light than Brandon? What games are you watching? You hate Skiles. We get it. Move on.

  3. Yeah, that was a very ugly game for Milwaukee. I still like the Bucks chances with the Hawks more than the Celtics, but I’d rather see a Bucks vs Celtics series because obviously the goal this year at this point is gaining experience (but 4 the next 2 days I’m more concerned about Chicago or Toronto making the playoffs than the Bucks being a 5th or 6th seed). A series against the Celtics seems like it will grab the intensity of the playoffs more for the Bucks players.

  4. With both the Boston & Atlanta game, the Bucks looked like they were out played by better teams (there, I said it). With the loss of Bogut, it looks like we can’t compete with the playoff level teams. I hope there is some spark on Wednesday against Boston . . . at least there are many “villainy” players on that team.

    What I’d like to see . . . I would love to see Danny G or Primoz used here in place of Bogut – but, I don’t think there is much confidence from the coaching staff (or ability from those players) that they can perform in this role – as we haven’t seen any hint of this since Bogut went out. I think Kurt is doing a great job, but I’d rather have him off the bench – or at least sharing more time with one or both of the other centers (I know they are trying that, but there hasn’t been much success). One can dream . . .

    I’m hopeful, but, we’re done in one if this is how we enter the playoffs.