Comments on: Playing Pluses and Minuses with the Drew Gooden Signing

By: Spurs front office fiscally sound | 48 Minutes of Hell

Spurs front office fiscally sound | 48 Minutes of Hell — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:06:08 +0000

[...] Frye 5 years, $30 million Drew Gooden 5 years, $32 million Brendan Haywood 6 years, $55 million [...]

By: curak

curak — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:26:26 +0000

I know Ersan hasnt played 3 since he came back, but he is still a bit overmatched playing inside against many 4′s in the NBA. But agree that he can be better than Gooden soon. So let’s hope his minutes aren’t too constrained by Gooden’s arrival.

By: bhlng

bhlng — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:09:34 +0000

Yeah – unfortunately, I have no proof of this. I originally heard it via radio, which intrigued me. Looking into it further, there are a lot of posts on blogs stating this as well. But no one can really confirm.
So it seems the details are lacking.
All in all, I think I trust Hammonds. The the CBA stuff being talked about, it may get pretty interesting over the next few months and possibly into next year.

By: Ty72182

Ty72182 — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:28:03 +0000

When you look at what guys like Amir Johnson (34 million), Darko (20 million) and Channing Frye are pulling down, it makes sense the Bucks would need to overpay to get Drew Gooden. That’s OK in my book. He’s essentially a 4th option on offense (Salmons/Bogut/Jennings/Magette). And can bang a little bit with the bigger PFs and small C’s in the league. He should help a lot on rebounding as well. He also can be a nice 2nd team center, with offense that Kurt Thomas/Gadz couldn’t offer. That was a huge issue last year when Bogut was on bench (healthy or hurt) that we didn’t have an interior presence on offense. Push comes to shove, the Bucks have some depth, and we just have to hope Skiles can help with the IQ thing.

By: Jeremy Schmidt

Jeremy Schmidt — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:51:54 +0000

That would change everything, it’d essentially be a three year deal, also known as a logical deal for Drew Gooden. I’ve heard otherwise on the specifics on the contract, do you have a link or anything on the matter? Or is this just more word of mouth stuff? Thanks for the information regardless.

By: bhlng

bhlng — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:23:10 +0000

From what I understand, Gooden’s contract comes with options for year 4 and 5. I do believe it’s broken down like this:

1: 5Mil
2: 5Mil
3: 6Mil
4: 8Mil (option)
5: 8Mil (option)

If you ask me – that’s a pretty good deal. Even with the ‘questionable’ status of this deal – Gooden is a solid player. If we would have heard this deal at 3 years and $16Mil, I think we would have been pretty excited.

Salmons was not known for his defense when he was signed, but he sure played pretty tough D near the end of the season if you ask me. I think Skiles can get these guys to play the game that we need from them.

With the talk of Salmons resigning with the Bucks, this team just became extremely deep. Yes, there will be fighting for minutes, but hopefully that just makes them work that much harder!

I’m pretty excited to see what goes down this season!

By: wornson

wornson — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:04:44 +0000

Hollinger’s piece really talked me off the ledge. You look at the depth this year: Jennings Salmons Magette, Delfino, Goodon, Ersan, Bogut, LRBAM. this will be a veristile team. Redd’s contract goes from albatross to asset and MKE is on the right path. Plus, Skiles knows Gooden and wanted him back. Says something to me.

By: Jeremy Schmidt

Jeremy Schmidt — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:45:56 +0000

I’d say Ersan is a pretty clear stretch four. He didn’t play any three for Milwaukee last year and I actually asked Coach Skiles about that once and he scoffed at the notion of Ersan at the three. He should be getting stronger the next few years too. I like Ersan and I think he could potentially be a lot better than Drew Gooden in the next few years. It does seem like there is a jam now at the four. Something will have to happen eventually.

But curak, I do agree that they can alleviate some problems by throwing Gooden in there at the five now and then. Ideally, Gooden should be a front court reserve, I’m just not sure his contract calls for that. Gooden and Maggette replacing KT and Stack does seem like an upgrade though.

By: curak

curak — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:35:22 +0000

@Ali
Much as we wish this were true, Ersan is still a bit of a tweener — not really a 3 or a 4. And he’s nowhere near all-star caliber yet, though if he gets stronger, who knows? And he needs to be more consistent offensively. Not just shooting, but using touches well. How many awkward drives did we see from him, especially early in the year. But I hope he does take it as a challenge and earn more minutes.

It seems to me that Gooden is essentially replacing Thomas and Magette Stackhouse. So Gooden is the backup center. But he will take minutes at the 4 as well, so it will be interesting to see how the minutes get distributed. It may be a bit like last season, when Skiles let players show him how many minutes they deserved. Or maybe Trader John isn’t done yet…

By: Ali Duyar

Ali Duyar — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:17:17 +0000

Very bad deal for Bucks,but very good deal for Gooden.After this deal Ersan has to go a different team,because he is a All-star caliber player.He doesn’t want to be a bench player for 20 minutes per game anymore.