Comments on: She said look ma, no stats

By: donspider

donspider — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:49:18 +0000

That’s an interesting read, and definitely provides perspective on this deal that I had not seen elsewhere. I’m gonna preface this by saying that I’m not a Bucks fan, but I’m also not trying to rain on your parade…From an outsider perspective it seemed pretty clear that the Bucks needed to make a move of some sort. However I think you may be overthinking the reasons for Udoh’s impressive plus/minus. Quite simply, he was playing behind Andres Biedrins, who is, at this point of his career, one of the worst players in the entire league.

By: Marq

Marq — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:17:23 +0000

@juice I wouldn’t call Sanders trash, just extremely raw and not becoming refined fast enough for us. It’s amazing how much of a difference he could make if he just had some hands to actually catch the ball, and if he could find a way to consistently stay out of foul trouble.

However, I think all of you guys are missing the real miracle of this trade: there are now at least five PFs ahead of John Brockman on the depth chart, not counting Leuer as a PF. That alone is a plus to me.

By: Marq

Marq — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:12:30 +0000

@juice Call me from an untapped phone so you can give me the skinny on your supplier.

By: Marq

Marq — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:11:31 +0000

@juice Call me from an untapped phone so you can give me the skinny on your supplier.

By: Wombat02

Wombat02 — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:33:02 +0000

@Ian_Segovia Even if you think adjusted +/- is a joke you would have to acknowledge that it is at least affected 20% by each player on the court over the course of a large sample.

It obviously isn’t the greatest stat but then it is kind of the best and simplest stat. “The team does better when this guy plays”…

By: Milly Prestige

Milly Prestige — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:22:38 +0000

@juice Yeah I think the chance is better the Bucks Trade Jennings and Ellis for Von don and Ishmael. Howard in a bucks jersey just inspires the idea of laughter.

By: PattiRafalskiDavison

PattiRafalskiDavison — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:02:06 +0000

Good read Ian. I guess I would be of the Disney school of thought that believes in teamwork and chemistry and hoping for a little Udoh magic to come our way. Swag emanating from both Ellis and Jennings…YES. Bring it on!

By: Ian_Segovia

Ian_Segovia — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:45:01 +0000

@BUCKSfirst Thank you very much!

By: BUCKSfirst

BUCKSfirst — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:40:28 +0000

@Ian_Segovia ”Has it occurred to you that if you can come to the same conclusion as a stat, then that stat might be useful”. This isn’t always true. That’s all I’m saying. But good article. Monta isn’t as bad as everyone thinks.

By: juice

juice — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:32:25 +0000

Larry Sanders is trash. I liked Udoh from his days at Baylor. Sanders and mbah a moute have no offensive game and mbah a moute plays the 3/4 spot. At least this guy can play 5 so no big deal.