This is what it’s like to be a Bucks fan

This new guy is the same as the old guy who was the same as the old guy who was the same as … (Photo by Chris Graythen/NBAE via Getty Images)

Here’s a timeline:


February 20, 2003 – Bucks trade Ray Allen, Kevin Ollie, Ronald Murray and a conditional draft pick for Gary Payton and Desmond Mason.


February 15, 2004 – Bucks trade Tim Thomas and Joel Przybilla for Keith Van Horn.


February 24, 2005 – Bucks trade Keith Van Horn for Calvin Booth, Alan Henderson and cash. (They waive Henderson the next day.)

August 8, 2005 – Bucks sign Bobby Simmons to $47 million, five year deal.

August 13, 2005 – Bucks re-sign Michael Redd to $91 million, six year deal.

October 26, 2005 – Bucks trade Desmond Mason and a first round pick for Jamal Magloire


June 30, 2006 – Bucks trade T.J. Ford for Charlie Villanueva.

July 31, 2006 – Bucks trade Jamal Magloire for Steve Blake, Brian Skinner and Ha Seung Jin.

August 10, 2006 – Bucks trade Joe Smith for Ruben Patterson.


January 11, 2007 – Bucks trade Steve Blake for Early Boykins, Julius Hodge and cash.

July 23, 2007 – Bucks sign Desmond Mason.

July 24, 2007 – Bucks re-sign Mo Williams to $52 million, six year deal.


June 26, 2008 – Bucks trade Bobby Simmons and Yi Jianlian for Richard Jefferson.

August 13, 2008 – Bucks trade Mo Williams for Luke Ridnour, Adrian Griffin and Damon Jones.


June 23, 2009 – Bucks trade Richard Jefferson for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Amir Johnson.

August 18, 2009 – Bucks trade Amir Johnson and Sonny Weems for Carlos Delfino and Roko Ukic.


February 18, 2010 – Bucks trade Hakim Warrick and Joe Alexander for John Salmons.

June 22, 2010 – Bucks trade Dan Gadzuric and Charlie Bell for Corey Maggette and a second round pick.

July 8, 2010 – Bucks sign Drew Gooden.


June 23, 2011 – Bucks trade a first round pick, John Salmons and Corey  Maggette for Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih.


March 13, 2012 – Bucks trade Stephen Jackson and Andrew Bogut for Monta Ellis, Kwame Brown and Ekpe Udoh.

Payton, Jefferson, Redd, Gooden, Ridnour, Salmons, Jackson, Maggette, Mo, Simmons, Mason, Magloire, Villanueva.


Whatever. Same guy in different shapes and sizes.

Some of these deals were bad when they were made, some of them were good. Some worked out okay, some were complete failures. All involved players who had little hope of moving the needle. Ultimately, none of these deals made the Bucks matter any more, with the exception of the first Salmons trade, which helped the Bucks catch lightening in a bottle.

The Ellis deal probably won’t be any different, but more on that later.

Jeremy Schmidt writes the Milwaukee Bucks blog Follow him on Twitter and become a fan on Facebook.

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  1. MatthewSchwendinger

    History is nice, reality is even better. I have quite a bit of faith in this one…but more on that later :)

    • MatthewSchwendinger

      Ellis that is, and maybe Udoh. No faith in Brown. We traded a cripple for a cripple.

  2. I don’t get this blog.
    If you’re a fan, then you’re crapping all over a trade that keeps together the currently available unit (which is playing the most attractive basketball *real* Bucks fans have seen in years, maybe decades) and adding an elite scorer and a decent young big.
    If you’re a journalist, then you’re crapping all over this trade because — what? —  the franchise has made a bunch of moves under previous regimes that failed to work out? 
    Either way, you’re giving bloggers a bad name. 

    •  @benjamiller I’m just a dude.
      Maybe this team is the best team we’ve seen in decades. I’ll go with the 1999-2001 squads myself instead of this one that is 7-17 against teams that have records above .500. I’ll also point out that this current regime was responsible for Salmons/Maggette/Jackson.

    •  @benjamiller And I’m not really sure that it’s the regimes that are the problem. Only one thing has been the same through the 90s, 2000s and 2010s.

      •  @jeremyschmidt I said this team is playing the most attractive basketball, not that they were necessarily the best. 
        You seem to be implying that Senator Kohl is the problem. He has made three big mistakes over the last two decades that have cost the team (Dunleavy for 8 years, giving Harris too much leeway and the George Karl/Ray Allen situation in ’03). What has mattered just as much is winning Big Dog and Bogut rather than, say, Webber and Howard (both one year prior).
        The subtext of what you wrote seems to be that you think the team needs to be blown up. That is your right to think that, but if you do at least make a fair argument that applies to THIS TEAM.

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  4. Looking at this list reminds me how terrible the Larry Harris regime was–huge contracts to average players! (Mo, Bell, Gadzuric, Bobby Simmons, even Redd). Hammond had to spend 3 years cleaning that trash up. I like Hammond’s moves–he recognizes when it’s prudent to move on, he isn’t afraid to roll the dice to see if he can catch lightning in a bottle, and he’s done a great job of getting rid of terrible contracts. The Payton for Allen move still is painful to look at, even now (Ray has played for another 10 years after that move, thank goodness he won a championship).

    •  @DarvinHam 
      A perennial All-Star for a half season rental of a past-his-prime PG… don’t remind me…
      Others can say what they want of Hammonds, but at least you can get a clear idea of what he’s thinking with all of his moves, ignoring Joe Alexander (a poster on another Bucks blog said something about Sen. Kohl probably got in Hammond’s ear to draft the athletic white guy to raise fan interest).

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