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Life support: Knicks 111 – Bucks 107

| April 11, 2012

Category: Playoff talk, Recaps

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New York Knicks 111 Final

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107 Milwaukee Bucks
Carlos Delfino, SF 22 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-1 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 2 PTS | -17

If there’s one thing Delfino has always done well as a Buck, it’s get inside Carmelo Anthony’s head. For whatever reason, the Knicks star doesn’t seem to like Milwaukee’s role playing forward. As he often has done, he drew a tech on Anthony in the fourth. Unfortunately, he was getting lit up by Anthony before that and failed to make any impact on offense. And Milwaukee missed the free throw. So that’s a bummer.

Ersan Ilyasova, PF 14 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 3 PTS | -3

Coach Skiles said he thought Ilyasova looked really anxious. He threw away an easy pass across the court and had some foul trouble early. This isn’t a great match up for him. Does he play center and deal with Chandler? Or the power forward and guard ‘Melo? Tough spot.

Drew Gooden, PF 5 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -5

Gooden played just five minutes, largely due to an injured back that’s left him looking kind of like a shell of his former self.

Monta Ellis, SG 41 MIN | 14-25 FG | 4-5 FT | 6 REB | 10 AST | 35 PTS | -8

The game of Ellis’ Bucks career for sure. He passed well out of the pick and roll, shot well on his spot up threes and finished on his drives to the hoops. His mid-range jumper was going down too. Defensively some of his gambles paid off, but he was beat on some really simple drives at times and on J.R. Smith’s eventual game winning three, he went so far over the top that no one could recover out on Smith (H/T @DrewOlsonMKE). But he carried the Bucks through the first half, so there’s that.

Brandon Jennings, PG 41 MIN | 10-20 FG | 0-1 FT | 4 REB | 7 AST | 22 PTS | -13

He and Ellis both played very well and made some big shots, timely shots. But on the Bucks final worthwhile possession, down three with nine seconds left, he let fire on a broken play. The look wasn’t great – a 3-pointer over Tyson Chandler’s seven-foot arm. Ellis didn’t seem thrilled about what happend, but Milwaukee needed to do something. If Jennings could have worked to get it back to Ellis somehow we don’t know.

Mike Dunleavy, SF 36 MIN | 5-15 FG | 7-8 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 19 PTS | +7

A typical of late Dunleavy shooting night and the Bucks probably take this one down. He had a great look with 43 seconds remaining that would have put the Bucks up three and probably would have gone down on another night. After grabbing his own offensive rebound, he got another look and was either blocked or altered by Carmelo Anthony. A bummer of a way to shoot given how automatic he’s been lately.

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, SF 32 MIN | 3-7 FG | 2-5 FT | 8 REB | 1 AST | 8 PTS | +12

Someone had to absorb Carmelo’s body blows in the fourth. His defense was solid, and the help was generally pretty good. ‘Melo scored seven points in the fourth quarter, two of which came after a Mbah a Moute block that hit off the backboard and fell back into Anthony’s hands for a layup. The easiest of Anthony’s looks came at the hand of Delfino. Mbah a Moute was physical with him and picked him up full court when Anthony went all point forward.

Minus one grade for the hideous jump shot attempt from 15-feet in the fourth quarter that barely, if at all, drew rim on the long side.

Ekpe Udoh, PF 23 MIN | 3-4 FG | 2-4 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 8 PTS | -14

He found himself so open around the free throw line with the ball in his hand at one point early in the fourth quarter that he had no choice but to shoot. Possibly to his surprise, he made the shot, his second bucket in the fourth. That little bit of offense was icing on the cake of another fine defensive outing from the undersized center, forced to cover a lot of Drew Gooden’s five minutes.

Larry Sanders, C 12 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +10

I tweeted at one point that this may have been Sanders’ best game ever. That was too much. My bad. He had a very good game. Sanders battled admirably with Tyson Chandler inside and even gave him a hard foul at one point much to the delight of the crowd. Sanders is playing with more edge recently, which is fun and necessary out of a backup big man. He also had two electric blocks that led to fast breaks.

Four Things We Saw

  1. Milwaukee needed to capitalize on opportunities if they were going to win. But they failed too many times to do so. A missed free throw by Jennings after a technical from Carmelo. Loose balls scattered across the ground after stops and tapped out rebounds they couldn’t recover.The missed free throw from Jennings looks big now. Instead of up nine, the Bucks were up eight. Two possessions later it was a three point game and the Knicks were ready to take advantage.
  2. Milwaukee got some bounces its way in the fourth. Between two minutes and 23 second left in the fourth, the Bucks grabbed offensive rebonds on three straight possessions. On two of them, they grabbed two offensive boards. The first possession resulted in a three from Monta Ellis. The second resulted in more missed shots and the eventual start of the end. Coach Skiles opted against calling a timeout, citing the team’s struggles in executing out of timeouts lately. He said he was pleased with the shots (a pair from Mike Dunleavy), but they just didn’t go down.
  3. In the first quarter, the Knicks made 14 of 15 shots in the paint and shot 77% as a team. The Bucks had no defensive presence inside, especially with the hobbled Drew Gooden handling the first few minutes. Chandler exposed his immobility for seven quick points and the Bucks couldn’t stop the bleeding until the quarter ended. Once again, they had to dig out of a whole.
  4. Milwaukee now sits two games back of the Knicks for the eighth seed and three back of Philadelphia for the seventh. They’ve also lost their tiebreaker with the Knicks.

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Jeremy Schmidt writes the Milwaukee Bucks blog Bucksketball. He founded it in January of 2009 because he hated his job. It’s like basketball, but with Bucks instead of basket. I know ... I’m sorry. He might come off as a bit negative, but I'm really not so bad. He just wants the Bucks to succeed, so he points out areas where they are coming up short. Someone has got to do it and he's ornery and opinionated enough to take on that task. He isn't sure if this should be in third person or not. Contact him at Jeremy@Bucksketball.com if you must use e-mail.

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  1. MatthewSchwendinger says:

    Great game to watch, just a tough end-result to swallow.

  2. JustinNixon says:

    Jeremy.. I really appreciate the work you do, mostly because you are taking the time to do it.. But I have come to realize that you are a Larry Sanders apologist.. I like Larry Sanders the man, his work ethic, and there are very few power forwards/centers in the NBA that can beat him in a footrace. That being said a “B”? He has some of the worst awareness of any player in the league.. Just take a few possessions 2nd quarter as  examples.. 1)he gets a “stepped out of bounds” turnover with no force out.. 2)then he gets BJen creamed by not calling out a screen from his man.. 3)and just for icing he commits a terrible foul on Chandler that gave the Knicks an easy two points and a halftime tie. The Bucks lost this game by four points and I don’t think a couple of swats make up for not realizing that it isn’t hard to keep your hands up on defense, instead of swatting arms.. It just makes me angry to think that we could’ve possibly had Anthony Randolph (which I brought up months ago) for Sanders and Jon Brockman earlier this year.. his line tonight: 28 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 blocks.. All of this because he gets some playing time.. Could’ve filled multiple holes for us.. Rant over              .. AND SO IS THE SEASON

    • Teddddd says:

       @JustinNixon dont know what Anthony Randolph would bring to the team, he’s not a true Center thatd just be another PF on a team that has too many already. He’s better than Larry Sanders sure but Randolph’s knock has always been his motor and not being very coachable and no matter who u are if u are not those things Scott Skiles will not play you. i.e. Maggette, Jackson.
       
      There is a reason he’s already on his 3rd team and apparently was shopped to be on potentially his 4th
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    • Teddddd says:

       @JustinNixon dont know what Anthony Randolph would bring to the team, he’s not a true Center thatd just be another PF on a team that has too many already. He’s better than Larry Sanders sure but Randolph’s knock has always been his motor and not being very coachable and no matter who u are if u are not those two things Scott Skiles will not play you. i.e. Maggette, Jackson. There is a reason he’s already on his 3rd team and apparently was shopped to be on potentially his 4th
       

      • JustinNixon says:

        @Teddddd I am not going to get into the he said he said rumor mill with you.. he is a better center option than anyone on our team and his (per 36) numbers are comparable if not better than Pau Gasol’s.. i might get frustrated too if saw DNP coaches decision on most of my box scores.. with the possibility of KLove being out I guess we will see what we see then

        • Marq says:

           @JustinNixon  @Teddddd 
           
          Sanders is showing flashes where it looks like he’s developing some hands to catch the ball for some easy throw-downs, and he’s making a few less mental mistakes than last year and earlier this season, but man does he still have a way to go. I hope the Randolph for Sanders/Brockman thing was only a rumor, otherwise knowing that is just going to ruin my day even further.

        • PattiRafalskiDavison says:

           @JustinNixon  @Teddddd Am I missing something?  When I compare Anthony Randolph stats to Larry Sanders….Sanders has comparable, if not better stats…weighs the same…yet has one year less experience than Randolph.  Larry has his own ‘head problems’ but not the kind that interferes with the well being of the team.  I don’t see giving up Sanders/Brockman and 2nd round pick as being good for the Bucks.  Did I google the wrong Anthony Randolph?  Are there +/- stats that should be considered?

    •  @JustinNixon I agree that I’m kind of a Larry apologist. Looking at things now, he was okay, but a B is pretty generous. I guess if it’s a B within the structure of what he’s capable of, then it makes sense, but not if the grades are weighed evenly. He’s okay for what he is: a bench big. As soon as he learns to cut down teh fouls, he’ll be okay.
       
      But I don’t think Anthony Randolph is an answer. He’s another mediocre three/four. He has an okay handle and is versatile, but he has a lot of below average games even when he gets minutes. And he doesn’t answer Milwaukee’s big size issue as an undersized three/four.

  3. Teddddd says:

    JR Smith is the only person on planet earth who would have taken that shot. Didnt even think about trying to get it into Carmelo Anthony the best clutch shooter in the NBA takes some serious cajones to pull the trigger on that and dude didnt hesitate, I thought for sure it was gonna be Monta vs Melo for the last 90 seconds, JR didnt let that happen
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  4. ThisIsntUnicef says:

    I really like what I saw from the Bucks last night.. If the Bucks were to get into the playoffs, the Bulls would, without a doubt, eat their —- like Kobayashi. So what exactly are we all so hell bent on making the playoffs for? I’m not trying to sound like a downer. I am really excited for what the future holds for this team. You have some of these people calling for Skiles’ head, but look at what the guy has had to work with over the last few years. 

  5. BrianShetrompf says:

    tough pill to swallow. However, I really think the future is looking good if we get a legitimate big man, I know easier said then done. I think the Ellis and Jennings back court could work just hope Jennings wants to stay longer than next year, as well as Monta for that matter. Udoh is promising and seems to improve in every game he plays.

  6. MatthewSchwendinger says:

    A lot of you are hitting on the main thing: the Knicks exposed our main weakness that Gooden, Sanders, Brockman, etc. are not TRUE Centers. Udoh is GREAT…off the bench or at PF. I love him. But we have 1 draft pick this year and I think we MUST use it on a center. Meyers Leonard and Fab Melo are guys who will be around where our pick is or below. What I’d really love to see happen is us get to that #10 pick for Tyler Zeller from UNC. I REALLY hate Hammond’s draft philosophy of “We’ll take the next best available guy.” I feel like that works in the NFL because there’s so many positions, but not in the NBA. That means he’ll draft another PF. We dont need any PF’s, even if Illysova leaves we still have Luc, Udoh, and numerous others.

    • MatthewSchwendinger says:

      Sorry, my main point, is that I believe we are missing just one piece to the equation: a very good, healthy Center. We get that and I think this team is well one its way to a 6th seed or better, even if we lose someone like Illysova or trade Udrih.

    • PattiRafalskiDavison says:

       @MatthewSchwendinger Meyers Leonard is an interesting prospect.  Just don’t know if he will be available.  Actually, we may have a look at all three of those guys.  It’s going to be exciting to see if Hammond can pull a rabbit out of his hat!

  7. KBela53 says:

    All I have to say is that Mbah a Moute should’ve been guarding Melo every second he was on the court. That, and Gooden shouldn’t be playing if his back is THAT bad. He’s killing the team with his minutes when Udoh and even Sanders have been better at this point. Ultimately, it was the missed free throws that killed the Bucks, but getting in that early hole in the first didn’t make things any easier.

    • PattiRafalskiDavison says:

       @KBela53 Looked like Gooden & Skiles were hoping that Drew could play more minutes last night and that could have helped.  He’s good at drawing defenders out and opening up the paint, drawing fouls and making free throws.  Bad luck having him hurt.  Sanders & Udoh did pretty good … let’s see if they keep improving.  This was sooooo close that we could just about taste that win.  The guys made one heck of an effort.  I give them thumbs up.

  8. RuffReader says:

    Um, Gooden should get a F.  He didn’t do a damn thing out there.  Pretty silly that Sanders only got 7 more minutes than him, when it was obvious how quickly the game changed in favor for the Bucks when Sanders was out there.

  9. andyxc13 says:

    As a Bucks fan who doesn’t live in Wisconsin, I absolutely love it when the Bucks miraculously get on national TV.  This does not happen often.  However, is it just me, or do the Bucks seem to always lose when on national TV?  Honestly, I cannot remember the last national TV Bucks game that they won (excluding games from the ’10 playoff series).

  10. Milly Prestige says:

    We should have won this game easily. I only viewed the final minutes of the 4th but we were up and with a near full shot clock lobbing up off balance little more than prayers from all over the field. Have to slow the tempo, we’re not one of the top assist teams because we lack ball movement. Very disappointed by this outcome. 
     
    Final thought is that Delfino is a stronger candidate for the D- this game than Gooden. 22min and nothing to really show for it, not good.