Reports: Bucks offering second round pick to make Kidd new head coach

Jason Kidd and his veteran Nets were not long for each other. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)
Jason Kidd and his veteran Nets were not long for each other. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

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The Jason Kidd story has taken another turn. Now it appears the Milwaukee Bucks only desired him as head coach all along and never had any aspirations to make him the team’s president. They first met with Kidd the day after the NBA Draft in New York and have quietly been working on a deal since then. This sudden twist was first reported by BrewHoop’s Eric Buenning and has found its way into a deeper story on ESPN.com via Andy Katz:

The source said the Bucks only talked to Kidd about being the coach, not any kind of administrative position running basketball operations. The source said the negotiation was supposed to be between the owners, not involving any basketball personnel, before the story leaked out by the New York Post. But the source said the negotiations are now being handled by Bucks general manager John Hammond and the Nets’ Billy King.

Apparently the only sticking point at this juncture is what the compensation to the Nets for letting Kidd out of the remaining three years of his contract will be.

The source said the Bucks offered a second-round pick, but the Nets wanted a 2015 first-round pick in exchange, a negotiating chip the Bucks originally dismissed.

Word is that the Bucks, one can infer specifically the new owners, are intrigued with Kidd’s ability to manage personalities and view him as a potentially strong disciplinarian, according to Katz’s post.

John Hammond and David Morway are safe, as it relates to this. Given that this initially began to go down without them involved and Kidd is coming out of a power struggle in Brooklyn, who knows how long they’ll be safe. But for now, they’re still running the show.

Larry Drew is considerably less safe. Even if this deal doesn’t go down, it would appear there’s very little chance that he’ll make it through the summer as Milwaukee’s head coach. He was joyful last Friday at Jabari Parker’s press conference. It appears his joy was all for naught. Tough luck for Drew, ultimately, he wasn’t a revolutionary coach by any stretch of the imagination. He struggled to develop an identity last season and appeared to have little control over the locker room. But to pull the carpet out from under him like this after he was damn near giddy at Parker’s press conference? That seems kind of bogus.

Meanwhile, owners Marc Lasry and Wes Edens must still be in the process of finding a President of Basketball Operations. Lasry said recently they were interviewing for the job, then we all heard it was Kidd and started yelling at them. Our bad, if that truly was wrong. Onward with your organization, fellas.

While we may have been wrong, it’s worth noting how many reputable media members were wrong with yesterday’s report, which feels like an AWFUL BIG COINCIDENCE. The kind that doesn’t happen. This has the scent of the Bucks wanting Kidd in a bigger role, the role he apparently wanted in Brooklyn, then coming down off of that at some point.

But everything has been very sourcified over the past 24 hours, so who really knows what the hell is going on.

Safe to say the Bucks front office was caught off guard yesterday by everything, which seems very strange if Kidd was coming in at a position underneath them. But maybe it was something the owners just wanted to do. Who knows. If it truly was just the new owners looking to get Kidd in as a new coach, then why was Drew paraded around on Friday as if he were the guy going forward? Why not just leave him out of the press conference? Why wasn’t he fired last month?

Ultimately … this was more than a bit messy. And it’s something to remember.

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Jeremy Schmidt writes the Milwaukee Bucks blog Bucksketball. He founded it in…

19 Comments

  1. WHAT A JOKE ! well now we know the truth behind the new owners ! when can you ever trust a hedge fund billionaire ? jabari parker and kidd are 2 POLAR opposite type of people, when jabari parker contract up, he will BOLT ASAP ! besides that, look at how poorly kid treated his co-workers at the nets, besides punching his asst. coach in the face or beating his wife to a bloody pulp a few times to drunk driving to pissing and moaning at the front office like a lil child. ( please fact check my statements ) i could go on and on about this BUM they are about to hire, its kidds foot in the door ! what next coach and GM ? its just a matter of time until he runs the bucks to schambles. just look at how poorly he did in new jersey, even his asst. coach is on paper from the team, that the asst coach new how to call the correct plays and that made kidd ferious to be out done. this a the biggest tradgity since the bucks traded away Dirk for tractor trailer.

      • “Kind of bogus”? No, that’s a b.s. move is what it is.

        I don’t care what Drew did last year, he is a employee working under a signed contract. Either end that contract and the employment PROFESSIONALLY or let the man continue to do his job.

        Bush league move from the hedge fund bros. Good luck, Milwaukee.

        • (alias Sfisch)

          I’m in agreement with treating all of our players and coaches and administrators with the utmost respect, but I think Jeremy was expressing pretty much the same thing. It’s hard to know what’s going on at this point, so it’s a difficult and delicate matter as to what words to use.

  2. “While we may have been wrong, it’s worth noting how many reputable media members were wrong with yesterday’s report, which feels like an AWFUL BIG COINCIDENCE. The kind that doesn’t happen.”

    You know how the 21st Century media work right? It’s not that far fetched that everyone would parrot the same wrong story.

  3. ok so , now we get something a little more solid as far as what is going on, but really until the deal is done we havent got a clue. Jeremy, I understand the need to semi protect your profession, but as bold of statement to say you get it right to the point that getting it wrong is a rare thing is simply not true. The media as a whole has been getting it wrong for years (not just sports media) in a rush to be the first to get the story, they often throw research, recent trends, and context out the window.

    Don’t get the idea that people come to these sites because you and your fellow media members are right so much its rare to be wrong, because that’s not true. We come to these sites because those in your profession are closer to the things we care about, and are able to get the interviews , practice observations and inside intel that the public at large simply does not have access to.

    The truth is, its often more taxing sorting through the opinion to get to the news of almost every article written in the news these days. This applies to all fields of news as well. We can supply our own opinion when it comes to news articles. Now on the same token, we don’t mind hearing a writers’ opinion on a news story IF its clearly stated as such, which most often its not, its just “a part of the story”.

    • as a side note, I dont mean to jump down your throat or anything, just that statement about getting it right was completely delusional. If thats how you feel about what you guys do for a living, then there is a huge need for self evaluation.

      • It just seems very bizarre that a lot of credible reporters like Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc Stein would be so off.

        Here’s my opinion: Nets source was upset with Kidd, knew about the meeting with Lasry/Edens and spilled the beans when ownership didn’t think it would happen. At that time, I suspect the Bucks were thinking of Kidd to run the organization, like he wanted to do in Brooklyn. Why would he just come to Milwaukee to be the coach? But everyone reacted VERY negatively to that idea. So the Bucks looked stupid. At that point, a Bucks ownership source leaked to Milwaukee writers that they were only looking at Kidd as a coach, not to run the whole organization.

        That’s how they covered themselves.

        • that just proves my point about reporters needing to slow down and get it right instead of getting it first. This is the biggest reason why reporters get so much flack in these comments. Back in the day, there used to be this thing called cross-sourcing, verifying information from multiple independent sources before reporting it to the public, that practice has gotten thrown out the window in the rush to be the first to report the story. That’s not to say no one uses that practice anymore, but by and large, most dont, and that is how reporters end up with their foot in their mouths.

          As for the kidd situation itself, there was something VERY dysfunctional going on in NJ, and I think just about everyone in the organization had a hand in it, including kidd himself. My speculation was that kidd was making the power play to either get in the situation where he had control or get out and either result was fine by him. Going by how he operated on the court, he clearly ran the teams he played point for in terms of plays and responsibility, so he obviously likes to have control of the situation, or at the very least be able to trust those who are in control. That’s on the NJ ownership not realizing that aspect of him before hiring him in the first place. I have no idea how it will work out in milwaukee, and I wont pretend to know hes gonna succeed or fail, but as a bucks fan, I sincerely hope this move helps both him and the bucks in the long term.

          as for larry drew, that really sucks for him, but on the bright side, he’s gonna get a lot of money to do nothing, and he has the rep to get hired elsewhere in the NBA, he’s in for a huge payday.

  4. Regardless of how one feels about Kidd or Drew, this was a bush move by the new owners. Stabbing someone in the back may be an acceptable Wall Street practice, but it’s not how we do business in Milwaukee. Where have you gone, Herb Kohl?

  5. Hedge Fund losers

    one step forward, many steps backward. jabari parker great pick, albeit a no brainer. not drafting a guard in the second round was a mistake. doesn’t surprise me that NY hedge fund douches would bring in their client. white shoe boys club. if the best thing kidd did last year was manage egos, how does that help the bucks who have no stars?

  6. Anyone condemning the new owners for making a coaching change needs to chill out. Basketball is a business and it was obvious in record and lack of team chemistry that Larry Drew did not succeed in his job. Yes I understand that it was believed that Drew would be able to coach another season, but the availability of another coach who is coveted by the owners changes the equation and makes this a completely reasonable move. Kidd led the largest winning percentage turnaround in NBA history with an injury riddled and aging roster. KD and Paul Pierce both endorsed him as a coach, and they were previously coached by arguably the second best coach in the game today (Gregory #1). In the end the owners bought a team that has struggled for the better portion of three decades so it is completely within their rights to make changes in the organization. could it have been handled more cleanly? yes, but that does not make the new owners terrible people, or even bad owners. Lets just sit back and see how the next few seasons unfold before we make insane assumptions about our new owners.

    • then fire Drew like a professional and then conduct your coaching search. There’s ways to act professional and then there’s grade-a jackassery.

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