Australian-Free Bucks Lineups
Monday, April 5th, 2010So what lineups are the Bucks going to use now with Andrew Bogut out of commission? Here’s a few of the lineups the Bucks have trotted out most frequently without Bogut this season.
| Unit | Minutes | O-Rating | D-Rating | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ridnour-Stackhouse-Delfino-Ilyasova-Thomas | 75.33 | 99.33 | 106.8 | -7.47 |
| Jennings-Bell-Delfino-Ilyasova-Gadzuric | 47.93 | 106.12 | 102.06 | 4.06 |
| Ridnour - Stackhouse - Salmons - Ilyasova - Thomas | 43.03 | 93.83 | 88.75 | 5.08 |
| Ridnour - Jennings - Bell - Ilyasova - Thomas | 25.83 | 134 | 96 | 38 |
| Jennings - Bell - Delfino - LRMAM - Ilyasova | 18.97 | 117.5 | 92.5 | 25 |
| Ridnour - Delfino - Salmons - Stackhouse - Ilyasova | 13.4 | 112.5 | 108 | 4.5 |
(A thanks to BasketballValue.com for the numbers, what a great site.)
A few notes:
- Defensively, a Kurt Thomas and Ersan Ilyasova front court seems to be the Bucks best bet. The lineup that combined the two of them with John Salmons, Jerry Stackhouse and Luke Ridnour had a defensive rating of 88.75, lowest among the seven I listed.
- Combinations involving Brandon Jennings and Ridnour typically fare well – with or without Bogut. At least offensively. As I was writing yesterday, the Bucks create a lot of their offense from the wings in. When Jennings or Ridnour are on a wing, they can really make use of their ball-handling and penetration skills. In over 25 minutes together when paired with Charlie Bell, Ilyasova and Thomas, their unit was plus 38. Imagine if Salmons stepped in for Bell on those? Looking at these numbers, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more lineups with those two again. I suppose that would be “going small” again.
- With a very small sample size of just 13 minutes, Ilyasova was not a disaster at center. Playing with Stackhouse at the four (I think primarily against the Hawks) his lineup had a difference of plus 4.5 in terms of offense rating against defense rating. Whether he could hold up against a larger front line (Boston’s perhaps) is still up in the air
- Numbers don’t tell the story of Kurt Thomas’ foul problems so much. When the Bucks last played the Heat without Bogut, Thomas played only 15 minutes due to foul trouble. Thomas hasn’t had any restrictions on his fouls, but now that he’ll be playing more minutes, he’ll have to be more judicious. We’ll see how this changes his game.
- I don’t expect to see much Luc Richard Mbah a Moute at the three. Playing him with Ilyasova and Thomas gives the Bucks a stout defensive unit, but leaves them with virtually no creativity offensively. The only way I see that line-up having success offensively would be with Ridnour and Jennings in the back court. That might be worth visiting.
- A wild card in this is Darnell Jackson. He hasn’t been used at all and won’t be available for the playoffs, but he’ll probably get some minutes coming down the stretch. Whether or not he’ll take away minutes from the Dan Gadzuric and Brezec duo remains to be seen.
- Speaking of the dynamic duo, where do they fit in the rest of the way? Brezec hasn’t played enough with any group to have a real sample size, but we can be sure that he’s plodding and not very good. Gadzuric has some hope, if only because he’s athletic and an okay rebounder. The Jennings, Bell, Delfino, Ilyasova and Gadzuric unit has a good sample size of nearly a full game and has a positive differential. If I had to guess, and it’s admittedly hard to predict coach Skiles, I’d say we see roughly 10 minutes a game from Gadzuric the rest of the way.
Without Andrew Bogut … : Heat 87 – Bucks 74
Saturday, March 27th, 2010Without Andrew Bogut…
- …it’s an understatement to say the Bucks aren’t the same. Offensively, there was very little room for shooters to operate and the guards had no release valve when they drew extra defenders on penetration.
- …defensively, Milwaukee was equally disastrous. If I had a dollar for every time a Bucks defender flew by or fouled their man biting on a pump-fake, I’d have a steak dinner coming to me. Between the poor close out efforts and the lack of interior defense in lieu of Bogut, the Heat ended up at the free-throw line all night Friday (25-28 FT) and made the most of their opportunities inside (34 points in the paint on 17-22 FG).
- …Dwyane Wade was able to get wherever he wanted on the court. Charlie Bell may have been called the “Wade Stopper” earlier this year, but he had nothing for Wade without Bogut behind him. Wade finished with the easiest 30 points he’ll ever have (9-14 FG 1-2 3FG 11-12 FT) and sprinkled in seven rebounds and assists for good measure. He carved up Milwaukee’s defense the entire night.
- …the Bucks were forced to play Primoz Brezec and Dan Gadzuric a combined 32 minutes. I’m not exaggerating or using hyperbole when I say that Brezec tripped over his own feet and fell down within two minutes of entering the game. I’m also not exaggerating when I tell you Gadzuric didn’t take a shot outside ten feet, yet finished 2-7 from the field. Oh, and Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem (the Heat centers most of the night) combined for 25 rebounds and 18 points (6-8 FG 6-8 FT).
- …Brandon Jennings was unable to make an impact. First, there was concern about Bogut, only to learn he was dealing with some kind of back injury. Now, there seems to be reason to be concerned about Jennings. Jennings probably isn’t injured, he’s probably just going through another dip, but that’s not all that concerns me. It wasn’t so much that Jennings was taking and missing bad shots yesterday, it was that he wasn’t looking to be aggressive. With Bogut out of the game, it seemed reasonable to expect Jennings to control the offense and look for his own shot early. He finished the first half with one shot attempt. Jennings is now 9-34 over his past four games. Coach Skiles on whether or not Jennings was hesitant:
I feel like he’s been that way since the Sac (Sacramento) game. We need him to be more aggressive. However, they were jumping out hard and aggressive with their bigs, pretty much text book of how you want to jump out and aggressively trap people. I also felt like he was looking to spread the ball when they were jumping out. It’s a fine line. When Brandon’s going to his right hand, he’s not nearly as comfortable, they jump out and he tends to pick it up and move it, it’s an area he’s still working on.
- …is one thing, but without Bogut or Ersan Ilyasova (flu), the Bucks front line was beyond depleted. The newly signed Darnell Jackson was not yet with the team and the Bucks simply were outmatched inside. Milwaukee was outrebounded on the defensive glass 37-19. They made up some of that deficit on the offensive boards, winning that battle 17-9, but what good does it do when Brezec and Gadzuric grab offensive boards only to miss another shot? Even the typically strong finishing Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was 2-10, with a number of misses inside.
- …the Bucks shot 31.5% and allowed the Heat to shoot 49.2%.
- …the Bucks didn’t block a shot.
- …Milwaukee had fewer assists (nine) than turnovers (10).
- …and Ilyasova was making it hard enough on the Bucks and then things turned for the worse. Carlos Delfino went down on a drive in the second quarter and has his head/neck area inadvertently stepped on by Heat power forward Udonis Haslem on a rebound. Haslem made an outlet pass and the Heat moved down the court, but Delfino didn’t move. He continued to lie under the hoop until a stretcher was brought out to carry him off. The Bucks reported that he did have movement in his extremities and he was being taken to the hospital for precautionary x-rays. No further word was available on Delfino, but keep him in your thoughts.
- …the Bucks weren’t so good Friday night and it was clear in every which way. The Bucks lack a competent back-up plan if Kurt Thomas is in foul trouble like he was Friday, making Bogut’s absence all the more notable. Before the game, Coach Skiles said he’d hoped Bogut would be back Sunday, said this injury had nothing to do with his last back injury and wrote it off as “back spasms more or less.” I’m skeptical but hopeful. One thing is clear though …
Without Andrew Bogut, the Bucks can kiss any playoff optimism goodbye.
Report: Bucks Deal Meeks, More On Salmons Deal
Thursday, February 18th, 2010Another trade has been made.
From TrueHoop:
The Milwaukee Bucks have agreed to a trade that will send Jodie Meeks and Francisco Elson to the Philadelphia 76ers for Primoz Brezec, Royal Ivey and a second-round draft pick, two league sources told ESPN.com NBA Insider Chad Ford.
Also, from the Milwaukee Bucks:
The Milwaukee Bucks have acquired guard/forward John Salmons (6-6, 207) from the Chicago Bulls in exchange for forward Hakim Warrick and forward Joe Alexander, General Manager John Hammond announced today. Additionally, the Bucks obtained Chicago’s second round draft pick in 2011 and 2012, as well as the option of switching first round draft picks in the 2010 NBA Draft, so long as Chicago’s first round pick is from number 11 through number 30.
So, for those of you keeping track at home the Bucks draft pick situation looks a lil’ something like this:
| Year | First Round | Second Round |
|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 1 (can swap with Bulls, top ten protected) | 2 (Sixers) |
| 2011 | 1 | 2 (Bulls) |
| 2012 | 1 | 2 (Bulls) |
Nine picks in the next three drafts … for the Bucks! Unheard of.
Essentially, the Bucks traded Jodie Meeks for a second round pick. Yes, we all had high hopes for Jodie Meeks when he first arrived on the scene, hitting threes in summer league and looking okay during the pre-season. But it hasn’t happened for him during the year and he’s currently hitting just 28 percent of his three-point attempts. In other words, Meeks is a shooter who hasn’t proved he can shoot yet. Maybe he will, he’s young and has plenty of time, but in the mean time, the Bucks get another second round pick that could have an impact or may get packaged in another move down the road.
Flexibility was the buzz word surrounding Hammond’s moves last summer and the word rings true again today.
UPDATE: John Hammond will be having a press conference at 4 PM (CST). I’ll have more information later in the evening (I’m going to the Marquette game after).
